Review of HostPaPa hosting

It was the most horrible experience I had, I must say; and I will never go back with HostPaPa.

-Wrong choice

I was using BlueHost for a couple years; service and quality were all good. The only thing I didn’t like was that the exchange rate of US-to-Canadian was quite high. So when my contract with BlueHost almost ended, I tried to search and see if there is a better hosting located in Canada.

Therefore, I went to Google and search “top 10 Canadian Hosing”; here is what I could find when I clicked on the first link (Please note that it is a “Sponsor Link”, so I think someone paid for the top link.)Top10CanadianHostingFrom the “Customer Support” column, seems like HostPaPa was the only Canada-based hosting on the list, and that was one of the reasons why I chose it; my wrong decision led me to a nightmare of experiencing website down time and bad customer service.

-Start with HostPaPa

Story began in April; I switched from BlueHost to HostPaPa, hoping I could get better hosting service and reduce the annual fees I had to pay. Well, truly, with my registration in HostPaPa, they are giving me a domain “free for life”, but eventually you will have to pay more, which they never say the condition before you placed an order with them.

-Power-down issue

While my hosting all set up, it runs alright with my site as I have relatively small websites. I thought I could rest back and develop my sites. Yet in early September, I experienced a couple down-times WITHIN A WEEK. I tried to get support, so I log on hostpapa.com ; the funny thing was that I could visit none of their web pages except the front page. I guess they separate the front page from the main site server and keep their front page visible all the time. But as customers, we might not be so lucky. I have heard the same problems from some of my friends who has sites hosted in HostPaPa for their clients. I couldn’t submit a ticket nor could speak with a representative at that moment. So I sent them an email regarding the server-down issue. They replied me the next time, saying that their area where the major servers were located, Ontario, had a serious power-down because of the storm; and that was out of their control. But they told me the issue was resolved and all service were back online. Yes, for 2 days. The 3rd day after they said the issue were resolved, I couldn’t visit my sites again. Later on I received an official email regarding the problems they had within those days.

I actually were OK with that because I knew things happen and sometimes you just can’t do anything but sitting there and wait for everything back to norm. However, if they chose that area as their server location, don’t they already know that there would be a chance of major power-down issue since they claimed they had so “many years of hosting”. If they realized the problem and make a backup plan when it happens, I won’t possibly put this into my review. To me, nothing much was lost during this power-down issue except a chance of presentation; but if you are a serious business owner who is going to put your business online, how will a 1-day-off break of your site affect your business? You could have lost up to tens of thousands dollars of orders, or even new and returned customers.

-Choosing JustHost

After this issue, I considered switching back to Bluehost. At this time, JustHost came to me with a very aggressive price, just $3.45/month. Well, I knew I would need to sign up for a 2 or 3 year contract thing, but comparing to HostPaPa, I save about $2 a month and it’s like almost 40% off after all the tax calculation.

This time, I was more cautious about what I am reading; I just didn’t want to become a victim of another HostPaPa again. So I read reviews online, tried to ask questions and visit sites that are hosted with JustHost. My feeling was actually positive, but I was kind of being in a dilemma of choosing between Bluehost and Justhost. I must say, they have a lot of similarities like providing unlimited hosting space, bandwidth and tons of other free stuffs. I had been with Bluehost for so many years and I always knew they had good quality of hosting, but Justhost’s service really impressed me. They answered of my questions, both within 20 minutes, and those are not auto-robot-type of replies. So I decided to go for JustHost.

-Nightmare with HostPaPa in transferring my domain

My domain rockia.com was transfer to HostPaPa because they provided “free for life” (JustHost does too.). As I am no longer happy with HostPaPa, I decided to transfer this domain over to JustHost.

I first filed a ticket on Oct 17th to request a transfer on my domain, at the same time, the support team at JustHost help me submit a transfer request. I received it through HostPaPa so I click onto the authorization form and approve it. I thought everything will be automatically processed, so I wait and check my DNS every day.

  • Oct 23rd, I was getting impatient, so I replied to the ticket again and request an EPP code.
  • Oct 24th, checked my inbox, no reply; talk to a rep at JustHost and find out the status of the domain transfer. They told me the transfer was canceled, so I submit my request to the ticket AGAIN.
  • Oct 27th, they billing department finally replied me and saying that because my domain was free for life, if I need to transfer it away, I have to pay $24.95 + tax = $26.20, and transferring my primary domain, they will have to cancel my account even though my service was good till April 2010. To be honest, I don’t understand and I didn’t remember they stated this policy on their site. So I email back and asked the reason why; I specifically tell them that, I will just need to change the DNS to JustHost and could live with HostPaPa still being my domain registrar.
  • Oct 29th, They just simply sent me back a nice “NO” in a better way to request the $26.20. I was pretty tired with HostPaPa’s customer service already, in order to get away  from them, I just paid the invoice and sent my request to them AGAIN.
  • Oct 30. Good. I talked a rep called Paul L. who is pretty nice and told me the to-do-list in their billing department is quite long. What did it mean? It just meant that I will have to wait.
  • Oct 31st, talked to Tim. He told me that Sherry at the billing department was away so my request couldn’t be process. I was like, what? So you don’t have another staff in the billing department? And one of the fact is that they all could see my payment was received. Tim promised me that I would get reply by the end of the day, which was not happening.
  • Nov 1st, maybe they are annoyed by me. In order to let me close my month, they sent me an email saying that Thank you for your payment. Your support ticket has been received and has been forwarded to our Domains Department to assist with your request and answer any questions you may have. To me, this email is just useless. Plus, my ticket was kicked from support to billing now back to support.
  • Nov 2nd, I got my domain transferred and my account was shut down.
  • GOODBYE, HostPaPa.

Just a note to those who would like to use HostPaPa’s service

- Get ready to the “Please be patient” notice while you are trying to get “Live Support”;

- Weird company policy which they wouldn’t tell you when you are going to sign up for their service;

- Promises won’t come true ( I guess they will never use the word ‘promise’ if they see this post);

- More pain when it’s out of their control for the power-down

If you are really looking for good hosting service, I strongly recommend BlueHost and JustHost to you. I had been with Bluehost for many years and will rate them 9.8/10, and I would rate JustHost 9.9/10 (No one is perfect, right?) The reason why I rate JustHost a bit higher than BlueHost is because of the price advantage and the “Anytime Money back guarantee” policy.

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  1. MarkC says:

    It is a shame that you should write such a report about HostPapa. I have used this company for a couple of years now, and have had no such issues.

    To be fair, their terms state very clearly that there is a transfer charge should you wish to transfer the free domain that they register for you away. They also make it very clear that the account is set up based on the free domain that you elect and removing this will close the account. So it really is your fault that you did not read this in the T&C’s and be prepared for the end result.

    I have only had one issue with them which they resolved quickly and efficiently. I read the terms and they clearly said that the domain would be registered in my name. Once the domain was set up I checked it and it was in HostPapa’s name. I sent them the extract of the terms and they informed me that this was some old T&C’s that should have been removed. But to their credit, they changed the contact details of the domain to my details as requested.

    I have found them quick to respond to support issues, they always notify me of changes or possible service outages etc and they provide a whole lot of services for a reasonable monthly price.

    As you suggest, they probably had had enough of you as you were complaining about issues that were clearly not issues but lack of research on your part. As I said, their customer support and reaction to my requests have always been prompt and accurate.

    You need to understand that there are a class of customers that are not beneficial to some companies and hence they need to be got rid of. I am not saying that this is the case here, but …

    I am pleased that you decided to go elsewhere as plaguing HostPapa support with matters that are clearly stated in the T&C’s just makes for a worse service for people like me who have genuine queries and problems that need answering. So thank you for moving on and letting HostPapa get on with their real work.

    Mark.

    PS Also, how would you feel if HostPapa wrote a (possible unsubstantiated) public report about you, stating that you were ignorant of facts about hosting, did not read the terms etc etc.. You probably wouldn’t be impressed no?

    • Rockia says:

      Hi Mark, it’s been over for a couple of months and I have already calmed down if there is anything I should be calmed down with. I might not be too sure about the TOC regarding the domain name transfer issue when I signed up Hostpapa, but I am not gonna lie about the service.

      If you have good service from HostPapa, good for you. However, this is not my case and I am not the only who had the same problem. I am not sure if they really have their real work to do, but I am really pleased that I leave this company.

      I already say goodbye to hostpapa, so I don’t really want to talk about it any more. If you receive good service and good hosting from them, I wish you enjoy your hosting. But if anyone asks me about Hostpapa, I still don’t recommend them choosing it.

      I only write what I experienced. Good service and stable hosting is not what I got from Hostpapa.

  2. MarkC says:

    Good of you to reply (and not rip my head off :-) ). I was probably being a bit offensive with my comments, so apologies for “being on my high horse” and I did not want/mean to insinuate that you were not being truthful about the service you received from them. These companies are big, with many staff and a customers’ whole experience can be different just based on who picked up the phone at the other end – Mr Nice Guy or Mr Grumpy! And I would also agree that the is a definite correlation between money paid and service received. So if really good performance and complete uptime is number one priority, I think that it is probably necessary to pay a little more….

    Regards,

    Mark.

    • Rockia says:

      Hi Mark, I totally understand what you meant. Hosting companies could be big, but I believe that the bigger a company it is, the more employees should follow some sort of guild-line and ensure the service quality. Nonetheless, when handling issues with customers, customer service are representing the company and not the individuals. During those “bad days” with Hostpapa, I did receive good response from some of the staffs and I did mention it in my review.

      I understand that paying service like shared-hosting are not big monies and probably these companies won’t even care about loosing a “troublesome” customer like me. I agree that for better performance/uptime, I have to pay a bit more. Hostpapa is not the cheapest among the ones I mentioned, and why Hostpapa was the only I had to write review on? I have been with Bluehost, Justhost, HostGator alone with Hostpapa and many other shared hosting service providers for myself or my clients. Usually I don’t move the sites around whenever the websites are up; too bad to see the issues rise up with Hostpapa. Power shortage problems happened with Justhost before as well and my websites were well taken care of and I was informed within 20 minutes after the disaster; if Hostpapa ever had such services, the post wouldn’t be written up and I would have still stayed with Hostpapa.

      I moved my blogs and sites to a VPS now; yes, I am willing to pay more for better performance and uptime. At the mean time, I am still keeping my accounts at Justhost and Bluehost active just for my other sites, because they do have a satisfying hosting quality and customer service.

      If I was the only one who was just that unlucky to receive all the bad service, I am sorry on this review for Hostpapa; but no matter what happened, when hosting quality fails (maybe by accident), customer service has to stand strong, because Mr Grumpy might just send away the customers (in my case, total of 7 including me and my friends, or even more).

      Of course, I still would like to see they have increase in hosting qualities and customer service. Also, good luck on happy customers like you, Mark. :)

      Regards,
      Rockia

  3. Nina says:

    I have never experienced such awful customer service in my life.

    If only they put as much into their customer care as they do their aggressive marketing, then they wouldn’t be pushing decent customers away.

    I have only been with them 2weeks, I am trying to cancel..as I received 3 sets of conflicting info from 3 different Live support ops, which resulted in me outlaying uneccessary money. I am within the 30 days money back period. It has been 8 days now since I put in my initial cancellation request. Since then I haven’t had a reply from ‘Billing’ –who are the only dept that can help,apparently. Billing have yet to reply to me to let me know where I stand, even though I have been onto Live support for a total of 3hours to 9 different ops who inturn have raised the priority level several times, and emailed ‘Billing’ 4 times.
    There is a lot more to this story, I just wish I stayed away from them ….to any potential customers out there, take heed, their customer service is awful!!

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